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on 5/13/19https://domainbigdata.com/nj/jAQEwHhs6kA6ypGKICvUXA
Gilbert Walker of WA state, was forced to pay millions to others he and his Kreative umbrella "organizations"conned out of folks with similar results, and the conning, hacking, fraud, theft, etc. is enormous in presence, variety and persistence, as well as unaccountability and safeguarding by the BBB, whose B+ rating and unconscionable defense and enabling in spite of an endless catalog and variety of complaints, expose even more than all of those imaginary businesses listed that Kreative has contrived, boobytrapped and registered you'll find through the link