I used liquid eyeliner. It didn't stay on. I walked into a free standing store that was an hour away. I asked if I needed a primer. They said I could use or not use a primer. I didn't find that helpful. I asked to see pencil eyeliner and purchased the one they advised. I wore it one day to work. It was on my upper eyelid and transferred to my upper lid. I called and got the online customer care personnel. They said they can only help with on line order returns. I went to MAC in Macy's. They said I couldn't return it since I bought it in a free standing store. They also said I have hooded eyes and should have purchased waterproof eye liner. I drove to King of Prussia Mall only to learn the MAC store closed. So now I have a poor quality product, wasted several hours with phone calls and trips to 2 stores, and would need to drive an hour if I wanted to return to the original store. Do not buy their products